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The phrases 就是说 (jiù shì shuō) and 这就是说 (zhè jiù shì shuō) are commonly used in Chinese to clarify or restate a point, similar to saying "that is to say" or "in other words" in English. They serve to provide further explanation or to emphasize a conclusion drawn from previous statements.
Example: 在这个情况下,他不诚实。就是说,他是一个不诚实的人。 (In this situation, he is dishonest. That is to say, he is a dishonest person.)
Usage of 这就是说:
Both phrases are useful for enhancing clarity in conversation or writing, allowing speakers to ensure their points are understood correctly.